So...Instead of promoting Black Panther or Luke Cage to a new audience of minority gamers who maynot know much about Marvel, Marvel puts Shuma Gorath back in this game and excludes all of it's male minority hero's.

I'll be quick about this. From my perspective, the author of the article seems to have a resentment for Shuma's inclusion in the game. The prose and tone is clearly negative and with flippant comments like

"I’ll be frank – Shuma-Gorath is so obscure, there’s almost nothing to inspire different color schemes."

"How he was chosen to be one of only 10 playable characters in the game when the whole Marvel Universe was available to choose from, I’ll never know"

Makes it crystal clear that the author was not enthused to do his write-up.

The overall lack of effort is obvious and disatisfying. There's not even a simple mention that Shuma-Gorath as a nemesis of Dr. Strange and an opponent of the Fantastic Four. The author could of at least inserted the aforementioned statement in addition to providing that his first appearance was Marvel Premiere #10. Finally, it would of been nice if the author had mentioned what exactly this squid-monster is for readers who have no clue to his character. (Which is a nearly omnipotent demon who rules over vast dimensions).

In conclusion, the author's write-up is poorly presented, bias, and a cheap shot at an obscure marvel character being included in a game with "the industry cash cows".

Let me shift gears for a quick second to voice my disgust at how Marvel treats "obscure" characters. Look Marvel, just because a character is not as popular as Wolverine, Deadpool, Hulk etc; does not mean they are less deserving of fair treatment. Also, YOU are the ones who make characters obscure in the first place. If you had occasionally allowed Shuma-Gorath an appearance in the Dr.Strange series he could of been a recognizable face by now.

Anyway, this article was disappointing and just proves Marvel's favoritism towards their money-making characters.

You should really be happy Shuma even made this roster. If this wasn't a Japanese made game then the "hentai tenticle Moster" (the real reason Capcom liked him) wouldn't have been chosen over deeper and more interesting characters like Black Widow and Black Panther. Picking obscure characters just for the sake of it is a really dumb business move. I'm a Mrs Marvel and Tchalla fan. Both characters are not "A-list" but like the first guy said they have alot of fans that would buy this game just for them alone and they both could have used the boost in outside exposure a game like this creates. But Marvel dropped the ball and let Capcom make too many roster choices like Shuma and A Sentinel. I will not be buying this game because either Capcom or Marvel chose not to include a fair amount of females or minorities.

@ KellyBundy

You are attacking Capcom for including a character that was essentially the first non-humanoid character in a fighting game. Shuma has tenure in the Vs. Series from Marvel Super Heroes onward and he deserved a spot on the roster. By removing Shuma from the game you erase a piece of history in order to satisfy the impulsive demands of the "new age" fans.

Whoa, whoa, whoa there, ShumaGorath2. You're obviously a big fan. I wasn't being flippant about the character himself -- I was being flippant about his obscurity. BIG difference there. I like him -- I wouldn't have bothered to include the ending to X-Men vs. Street Fighter, much less call it "possibly the greatest ending of any fighting game" if I hated him.

As for the quote (which you didn't complete, by the way citing that you have to respect Capcom for loving him so much), I think it's a fair statement. The same goes for Blackheart in that lineup, actually.

Also, I didn't go into who he is because that's not the point of this. The point was to show what he looks like in the game and try to do so in a somewhat amusing way. It...obviously didn't work for you.

@Marvel_Interactive

Thank you for responding, It's good to know that you are referencing his obscurity and not his character. But you have to remember that since Shuma is so obscure, you have to put a little bit of extra information so that people don't question "Oh why is he here when there is an entire universe of characters to choose from?"

Look, it's just a bit disheartening to see an amazing write up on Captain America below Shuma and then reading his own article and not seeing a mention of where he came from in the comics or who he is. Yes, I understand the purpose of the article was to show what he looks like, but it would of been nice to see an opening in the form of "Now it's time to showoff the all-powerful tentacled terror from the Dr.Strange comics! Shuma-Gorath!" or something along those lines so it's clear that you enjoy the character and this signals readers a bit of who he is.

@Actionjacksonks Oh god not this discussion again. Buddy, I don't think you realize a few things.

1)It's stupid to judge a character by their skin color alone. Don't give me this crap about how there's a lack of minority characters in this. That's a petty thing to complain about. I'm not happy about a lack of Black Panther either but I'm not going to cry about it because I have Dr. Strange, Ghost Rider, Iron Fist, Deadpool, Storm, She-Hulk and Thor. All characters I wanted to see in this. So at least I'm happy there.

2)Most of Marvel's black characters would play too similar to other characters that made the roster. I hate to say it but it's true. Blade would be too similar to Dante, Vergil and Zero, Luke Cage is essentially a black version of Haggar, and other than some kind of Wakandan tech and his energy daggers, I have no clue how Panther would fight outside of being like other rushdown characters like Wolverine and X-23.

Made this profile just to agree with Actionjacksons. Ironman doesn't even get a Warmachine skin. How's that for messed up?
Closest thing is the Powerfist skin for Ironfist. I still want to see Luke Cage, BP or Night Thrasher. I doubt these requests will be heard.

LordTerminal
"1)It's stupid to judge a character by their skin color alone. Don't give me this crap about how there's a lack of minority characters in this. That's a petty thing to complain about. I'm not happy about a lack of Black Panther either but I'm not going to cry about it because I have Dr. Strange, Ghost Rider, Iron Fist, Deadpool, Storm, She-Hulk and Thor. All characters I wanted to see in this. So at least I'm happy there."


Your quite mistaken. Stan Lee himself has even talked about the importance of black and latin representation in his company. I shouldn't have to hear stupid things like, "None of the black characters are cool enough" from devs of this game. Alot of blacks and latin teens/kids play this game but don't follow Marvel much. Ball Dropped. And why would they want to start when they see a roster like this? I'm also a fan of Captain America and Thor but guess what, They are already in everything so they don't move a person like me (who tries to support a few of Marvels minority heros so that they don't vanish.)
A character like Black Panther who was the first Black superhero created (for the reasons you call petty) that's been around since the 60's cant even make this roster but Marvel has the nerve to wonder why minority support is lacking in their company. Black Panther has a solo comic (the only minority in Marvel with one) and didn't get the same promotional help that x-23, Hawkeye, ROCKET RACOON, and Nova got by being added. That is a problem that need adressed and Capcom has already stated that THEY dropped the ball in that department. Just because you don't care doesn't mean MANY others don't either because I'm pretty sure alot of people have made this complaint.


LordTerminalsaid"
2)Most of Marvel's black characters would play too similar to other characters that made the roster. I hate to say it but it's true. Blade would be too similar to Dante, Vergil and Zero, Luke Cage is essentially a black version of Haggar, and other than some kind of Wakandan tech and his energy daggers, I have no clue how Panther would fight outside of being like other rushdown characters like Wolverine and X-23. "

ok here's whats wrong with what you just posted.
1. Gameplay is subjective when going from comic to a Capcom made game. Wolverine (in comics) does not shoot energy from his chest. Hulk (in comics) does not jump and grabs comets to smash ppl with). X-23 cannot vanish (panther can). She hulk is using car summons and telephone poles pulled from her pocket. Magneto is not a hand to hand fighter. See where I'm going with this. So why is it that when women and minorities are brought up people (devs included) quickly say they don't have the tools! or Gameplay issues! Hawkeye was just added who = taskmaster by your generalizing logic, X-23 and wolverine, hulk she hulk ect. Yet you have the nerve to claim Panther is similar IN ANY WAY to wolverine and his clone x-23. Or that Luke Cage is similar to a regular muscled up mayor that works out. Please research the characters and learn about them.

also Pheonix Wright's inclusion should have shut this gameplay excuse up the minute he was revealed.

I say all this respectfully btw

I agree with ShumaGorath2.

@Kellybundy, what exactly makes Black Widow more interesting than Shuma Gorath? She's a female super agent, and from my point of view, there's nothing interesting about it. It's too small time for me. I read Marvel comics because of the cosmic themes, and a mumti-dimensional god like Shuma Gorath is far more interesting to me, what a wider range of abilities and power. What's Black Widow gonna do? Hand-to-hand combat? Great, another punchy character. Not my thing.

@ Aries
Black Widow is more interest because she's actually been in more than 2 comic books. She has a personality and a fanbase. She also has a few things like a grappling hook, electic darts, and tear gas. Plus she can fight. Last time I checked being able to fight was cool for games that call themselves fighting games. So calling someone too punchy for a fighter is pretty dumb. As is making Shuma Gorath a Martial Artist. If capcom can't do anything with these characters then maybe they shouldn't be making marvel games. Give the license to Namco and Tekken.

And what happened with, those who bought the Captain Steve Rogers DLC alternate costume for MvC3? like me??? That costume is lost now???

And well, I love almost all the new Cap costumes,(specially Age of X, and Bucky Cap Costumes) but I miss the Red costume, because, in MvC3 I have a Red Avenger Team.


Oh I almost forget it, but maybe you think I complain to much, but, why if you can take the time to make a properly costume from Age of X with all of those awesome changes, why you don't do the same with Magneto Age of X Costume? I mean, you just painted white, and that's it, but with the captain you do a pretty good job.

I heart Shuma-Gorath.

@Actionjacksonks

dude, please. That's great that you're full of pride for characters like Black Panther and Luke Cage, but as a minority myself I could care less about their absence from this game at all. Minorities are not turned off by this game because of lack of hispanic, African-American or Asian representations of characters and those who are are the few who just look for something to complain about. The truth is, Minorities are more likely to be turned off by the fact that they need to buy a whole new game just to play as 12 new characters after they already purchased the original game.


Sure creators may have said they "dropped the ball on that", blah blah blah, that's called being PC in an interview. You think I'm excited about Miles Morales because he's half hispanic? I care about good character development regardless of race, and the only reason I would have liked Black Panther in the game is to have another Avenger to control or pair with storm because I'm a sucker for making interesting team themes.

You got both Luke Cage and Panther in MUA 2. Luke cage sucked in that game IMO, Panther was awesome. I do not think Luke Cage would translate well into a MvC fighting game and do not want him. Panther would be cool. I'm glad Capcom was nice to Mexicans and left out El Fuerte, I would have much preferred T. Hawk, lol.

You have the most powerful Black character in Marvel Comics in this game, in terms of power and influence; Storm. And she kicks ass in this game!

I registered to the site just to leave a comment here. I'm completely surprised that literally no one got the humor in this article. Though I suppose this is the internet, so maybe I shouldn't be.

Anyways, the point of these costume updates is to give you a run down of why they chose certain costumes. For heroes like Cap, Hulk, or Thor, they have a rich background of years and years of comics and TV shows to draw their influence from. With Shuma, he is a big alien with a single-color scheme. They have to fill it with other single color reskins, and to do that, they just pick the ones they think look coolest. That's why there's so little here.

Find a cool, tounge-in-cheek article, get depressed by the stupidity of the comments section. Pretty much sums up my internet experience.

@Molina

I'm glad you could care less and that's good for you. But there are alot of people that DO care. Hence the reason this topic is brought up so much and asked at comic-cons and interviews. If you care so little then why comment? No one is talking about adding a random black or Latin guy. No one cares about Miles Morales. We care about characters like Panther, Blade and Cage who have both the history and the fan intrest to warrent a spot and chance at this exposure other than being made into stupid cards. Characters than minority fans have invested money and time into for well over 4 decades. If people were looking for things to complain about then why didn't you hear these complaints when MUA1 was made.

Panther is obviously the best choice (in my biased opinion) for a game like this seeing as he gives the most options and has the most team connections and solo things to promote. He's also the only minority character that cracking top ten in DLC polls. But Luke Cage could have added just as much as Iron fist did. I'm not a Luke Cage fan BTW I'm just tired of the dumb gameplay excuses. I though Iron fist was pretty lame in MUA2 AND I think he's a lame bruce lee/Fei Long copy in UMvC3. That's just my opinion though. His powerups in MvC could have been applied to Luke Cage in terms of building up defense and Super Armor.

Also if the devs say they dropped the ball then I'll take their word over yours.

And Storm is only in this game because she was a top tier in MvC2. As is Sentinel. Has nothing to do with her popularity (which is down), Her power (which is covered by Thor and Magneto really) or influence (which is less then Panther's in Marvel lore)

lastly, Capcom is the type of company to make character like El Fuerte. Which is exactly why this roster looks the way it does and there are complaints. Or Maybe Marvel just didn't allow them to use any of it's minority heros like Warpath (you say your a Thawk fan)

@Actionjacksonks
As always, your comments are read and appreciated (you are Ekie0 on Twitter, right?). I hope that was just exaggeration in your last statement, though -- I can absolutely assure you that Marvel did not bar the use of minority heroes.

@Cleverdan22
You are now my favorite person on the internet.

--Chris

@CleverDan22

I do not mind the fact that there is not alot of information on Shuma Gorath. But he does have SOME history.

Also the new red and black color palettes for Shuma instantly reminded me of POPULAR Doctor Strange villains Mephisto and Blackheart respectively. So yes, the author could of easily compared the new Shuma palettes to something in the Marvel Universe for a longer write-up. But he didn't even attempt to do so and that's what bothers me.

Who knew this innocent posting would cause so much controversy?

@ShumaGorath2

As Dan pointed out, the point of the article is to tell the stories behind the color selections, not to dive into who the characters are themselves. Look at the Captain America captions by comparison and you'll see that, for the selections that actually do have stories behind them other than they look cool (for Shuma that's two, arguably three), there's no more "story behind" each look for Cap than what Shuma gets. Explaining WHO the character is just is not the point of this piece -- explaining WHY they look the way they do is. It sounds like you want this to be a bio, which is something anyone can just look at within the game itself (not to mention Marvel.com bios, Wikipedia, Comic Vine, etc.).

And yes, I suppose I could have made some sort of random association like the ones you mention for red and black. But then I'd be lying, which something I just don't like to do. We picked them because we liked how they looked, and it's that simple.

@ Marvel_Interactive

I don't want this to be a bio, I just wish you put more time and effort into the Shuma Gorath article. I understand where you are coming from, but this is how I see it.

Suppose you had to go on a date but could only spend $10 of cash total. Now if you really liked the person and wanted to impress them I bet you would make that $10 work. For example you could go for a nice walk in the park, play some Frisbee, buy some ice cream, and rent a Redbox DVD. Yes, a pretty good date considering the spending limit.

But the above takes much more time, effort and thought then just calling the person up and saying "Look I can only spend $10 on you for this date, so what do you want to do? Cause I really got no idea."

You see MI, you could of done option A, but you took the easy way out with option B. Yes, I suppose it would be "lying" to make-up inspirations for Shuma's designs, but would that of really hurt anyone? I don't think so.

Anyway this article just sadly proves that Marvel only gives a thought about it's frontliners, Yeah I suppose this article could somehow be considered "humorous", but it's actually quite sad when you look at the truth.