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    #10 - Posted: March 14, 2013 | 1:05 AM

    They already dropped Daredevil to keep the FF (including Galactus and the Silver Surfer.)


    That's why they used the Ultimate's name for the Skrulls instead of mainstream.

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    #9 - Posted: March 10, 2013 | 9:16 PM

    Okay, here is the link to the wikipedia article on the Fantastic Four films. I think it should be noted that anything written on wikipedia isn't necessarily the truth so take it with a grain of salt.

     http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fantastic_Four_in_film


    According to this article, Fox has until 2015 to make an FF movie or the rights revert back to Marvel (drag your feet, Fox, please!) But it also says that Fox is planning on a reboot with the reboot introducing the FF in the same cinematic universe as the X-Men (also owned by Fox). This could be a major step on Fox's part. If the Days of Futures Past movie  is a success (and it helps glue all the bad continuity together), Fox will continue hold onto the X franchise. If Fox reboots the FF and plants them firmly into the X-Men continuity, then they might have a solid Cinematic Universe completely seperate from the existing MCU held by Disney/Marvel. This would spell certain doom for reintergrating the X-Men and FF back into Disney/Marvel's hands. It would probably take a decade for Marvel to get its adopted kids back. 

    But, the wiki article also says that Marvel Studios is trying to regain control of the FF in exchange for letting Fox extend its contractural hold on Daredevil. It seems that I heard that Marvel had already regained control of DD. I'm not sure how old this info is. 

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    #8 - Posted: March 10, 2013 | 9:01 PM

    Gotta remember that if the X-Men and Spidey franchises are making money, Disney and Marvel are getting their cut of the profits. As long as those franchises are making money (ie, moviegoers are going to watch those movies) Disney/Marvel aren't going to bother re-purchasing those contracts. You gotta remember, if they do get those franchises back, they'll have to reboot and retool them if they are going to integrate them into the MCU. I'm afraid the X franchise would get a major retooling and probably make some diehard fans moan and groan.


    The Fantastic Four...yeah, where's the reboot. Its been about 7 years since the Rise of the Silver Surfer movie came out. That's a long time it seems for Fox to sit on that contract without doing something with it other than getting a script writer.


    Spider-Woman...I'm not sure if Sony has the rights to that character. Many may argue that she is not really related to Spider-Man, but to the average moviegoer I think there would be a huge amount of confusion if, by chance, Disney/Marvel came out with a movie that included her and find out that she has nothing to do with the Webhead. 


    Boy, I really liked the Secret Wars (the original). It had a simple premise that almost seemed to follow an old Star Trek episode's plot: a superpowerful being scoops up good guys and bad guys and tells them to fight. No long, lengthy explanation of who, how, what or where. There would be some problems with a movie version. If, by chance, Disney/Marvel had the movie rights to all their characters, how could they afford a movie that included HOW MANY big name actors, all the special effects, locations, etc.? The movie would be a major undertaking.

    What about the villains? There were a lot of villains in Doom's group, a lot of which would need a lot of explaining if dropped into a movie. 

    I'm thinking that if they were to do a Secret Wars movie (or a Civil War movie, for that matter) they'd need a lot of groundwork done first. That groundwork would be more origins movies, more Avengers sequels, etc. That's going to take a lot time and that introduces another problem: unlike comicbook characters, actors age. How many more Iron Man movies is Robert Downey, Jr willing or able to make? Yeah, they can get someone to take over the role, but are they going to "act like RDJ acting like Tony Stark"?

    I'm thinking if they were to make a REALLY GOOD stand alone ANIMATED movie, it could work. I'm not talking cell animation, I'm talking a major CGI movie (with performance capturing??). I haven't gotten into all of the animated movies that Marvel's put out. I'm sorry, but to me, they look juvenile. Yeah, I can get a good laugh and get entertained from some animated "kids" movies (Over the Hedge, Up, Wall-E, etc...and I'm sure a lot of people of all ages loved those movies as well) and even marvel at a good story shown in CGI animation (Disney's latest A Christmas Carol) but if this stand alone movie were to be really good, it should be geared for older audiences, not just a "cartoon that adults can enjoy." Why animation? I think it would help set itself apart from the MCU. If its in its own seperate continuity they can do a lot of explaining away for certain villains.
    Also, and I just thought about this, I believe Disney/Marvel has the animation rights to ALL OF ITS CHARACTERS. That would really help free Disney/Marvel up to do a project like this. I'm not sure if Fox or Sony would complain that "Hey, this animated movie you're making is geared to be a major motion picture, not just a glorified Saturday Morning cartoon." 

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    #7 - Posted: March 10, 2013 | 5:03 PM

    Although X-men and Magneto create a third fraction, I dont think it's that important to the storyline.  But it would imperative for Marvel to regain the FF rights, especially due to the Galactus / Dr. Doom aspect.   I have not seen any current news about the new FF reboot - so hopefully that will fall apart and the property will return to Marvel.


    We would need Sony and Marvel to work out a deal so we could have Spidey, Lizard and Dr Oct. 


    Does the Spider-Woman character fall into Sony's rights or Marvel's.

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    #6 - Posted: January 22, 2013 | 10:08 AM
    If reports are accurate about SONY Corp. gradual decline in profits over the last few years (even though it has nothing to do with their entertainment division) Disney would find it very
    advantageous to get into negotiations for purchasing SONY's MARVEL movie rights. Why not offer $500 – 750 MILLION for Spidey and all related characters? It would be a win for SONY and a BIG win for Disney!

    I could never see FOX selling the rights to the X-MEN properties for one reason only...WOLVERINE!!! However, it would be a WIN, WIN, WIN (Disney, FOX, and the legions of worldwide comic fans) to negotiate a joint project with one character each from their franchises . . . . WOLVERINE & (VS) HULK!!!

    Let's hear it, bigshots. Think you could do it well enough to make TITANNIC look like a Gilligan's Island movie? Ca-CHING!
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    #5 - Posted: January 22, 2013 | 10:08 AM
    If reports are accurate about SONY Corp. gradual decline in profits over the last few years (even though it has nothing to do with their entertainment division) Disney would find it very
    advantageous to get into negotiations for purchasing SONY's MARVEL movie rights. Why not offer $500 – 750 MILLION for Spidey and all related characters? It would be a win for SONY and a BIG win for Disney!

    I could never see FOX selling the rights to the X-MEN properties for one reason only...WOLVERINE!!! However, it would be a WIN, WIN, WIN (Disney, FOX, and the legions of worldwide comic fans) to negotiate a joint project with one character each from their franchises . . . . WOLVERINE & (VS) HULK!!!

    Let's hear it, bigshots. Think you could do it well enough to make TITANNIC look like a Gilligan's Island movie? Ca-CHING!
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    #4 - Posted: January 3, 2013 | 5:07 PM

    Magneto and the X-Men formed a 'third faction', but Galactus and Doom stole the show.

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    #3 - Posted: December 5, 2012 | 2:54 PM

    I was recently thinking about a Secret Wars movie, one of the things I'd want to see in it is a Captain America versus Dr. Doom fight!

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    #2 - Posted: November 3, 2012 | 8:47 PM

    How important is Magneto and the X-Men in the Secret Wars? Do they play a big role in the story or are they just playng the supporting role during the Secret Wars?

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    #1 - Posted: October 21, 2012 | 5:17 PM
    If Marvel could secure the rights to Spidey and Fantastic Four then I'd love to see a SECRET WARS movie. Perhaps they could work a deal with Sony. I dont think Fox would ever allow Marvel to use X-Men. Bastards. So can you picture a Secret Wars movie without the X-Men and Magneto?