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Mr. Fixit vs Gotham's underworld

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    #22 - Posted: December 9, 2012 | 10:28 PM

    Just curious, what would Fixit's answer be for Poison Ivy?  She's way past being a de-ranged botanist that all he had to do was push past her plants and rip her arms off, she's about elemental now.  


    And I think the Joker is being sold a bit short here in favor of the home team slugger, when you look at his history, he always plans his schemes out so he is furtherest away from the action.  Batman usually has to disarm some mechination (usually involving chemicals/biological warfare which could work on the Hulk), then fight through loads of minions (well this part isn't a problem for Fixit at all) before he can get his dainty mits on the Joker....and sometimes that still even if he can (as the Joker half the time has exit strategies and eludes Batman).


    And dont forget Joker has experience going against super powered beings as sometimes he borrows the problem of Superman and also has experience points from time with the Injustice Gang which is an Anti Justice League.



     



     

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    #21 - Posted: December 9, 2012 | 9:08 PM

    Dec 9, 2012 -- 2:06PM, Bonesbar wrote:


    Dec 8, 2012 -- 9:55PM, GammaCosmic wrote:


    Dec 8, 2012 -- 1:55PM, Bonesbar wrote:


    Dec 8, 2012 -- 1:46PM, GammaCosmic wrote:


    That was true at one point...but not any more.





    This is one thing I hate with the Hulk...at least in these debates. But really, when he was Mr Fixit it was the case. Wasn't it? That's who's in this fight. Well, if he has this issue I see him losing. If not, it's hard to tell. I'm not that big into Batman to know who beside Ivy could give him any real fight.




    Its called evolution of a character..who hasn't had a upgrade.






    Well this thread is about Mr Fixit. The Hulk has evolved passed this persona decades ago...but this thread is using him. So does the sun change him or not? It DID when he was Fixit but he's not Fixit anymore. Can you understand the issue I have? I don't have too much of an issue with the Hulk's different changes, some make more sense than others is my only issue...I'm just simply saying that when it comes to vs threads, the Hulk can get confusing. Just about every 10 years or so they change the rules when it comes to him. I just want it to be clear what incarnation I'm dealing with. From different weaknesses, to different levels of intelligence, to different personalities, to different strength levels, etc.. The Hulk is all over the place....it can make these vs threads confusing, especailly if they're using past incarnation. I'm just trying to present different opptions for different incarnations.  If he has the Sun transformation, his odds change.



    Mr Fixit is just one of Gray Hulk's many aliases. Its not a different Hulk. So no the sun doesn't affect him any more..before all it did was revert him back to Banner...it was a failsafe.

    "Him hit like mountain. If mountain had fist."-Incredible Hulk #3(Bor Brothers vs Hulk)
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    #20 - Posted: December 9, 2012 | 2:06 PM

    Dec 8, 2012 -- 9:55PM, GammaCosmic wrote:


    Dec 8, 2012 -- 1:55PM, Bonesbar wrote:


    Dec 8, 2012 -- 1:46PM, GammaCosmic wrote:


    That was true at one point...but not any more.





    This is one thing I hate with the Hulk...at least in these debates. But really, when he was Mr Fixit it was the case. Wasn't it? That's who's in this fight. Well, if he has this issue I see him losing. If not, it's hard to tell. I'm not that big into Batman to know who beside Ivy could give him any real fight.




    Its called evolution of a character..who hasn't had a upgrade.






    Well this thread is about Mr Fixit. The Hulk has evolved passed this persona decades ago...but this thread is using him. So does the sun change him or not? It DID when he was Fixit but he's not Fixit anymore. Can you understand the issue I have? I don't have too much of an issue with the Hulk's different changes, some make more sense than others is my only issue...I'm just simply saying that when it comes to vs threads, the Hulk can get confusing. Just about every 10 years or so they change the rules when it comes to him. I just want it to be clear what incarnation I'm dealing with. From different weaknesses, to different levels of intelligence, to different personalities, to different strength levels, etc.. The Hulk is all over the place....it can make these vs threads confusing, especailly if they're using past incarnation. I'm just trying to present different opptions for different incarnations.  If he has the Sun transformation, his odds change.
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    #19 - Posted: December 9, 2012 | 3:58 AM

    Dec 9, 2012 -- 2:00AM, Raisen wrote:


    Dec 8, 2012 -- 1:55PM, Bonesbar wrote:


    Dec 8, 2012 -- 1:46PM, GammaCosmic wrote:


    That was true at one point...but not any more.





    This is one thing I hate with the Hulk...at least in these debates. But really, when he was Mr Fixit it was the case. Wasn't it? That's who's in this fight. Well, if he has this issue I see him losing. If not, it's hard to tell. I'm not that big into Batman to know who beside Ivy could give him any real fight.





    You really like to downplay Hulk or look for a weakness by quoting comics from 20-60 years ago.  Yet, you cling to PIS displays of power from guys like Doc Ock.





    hmmm... isn't Mr. Fixit an incarnation of the Hulk from at least 20 years ago? Really this thread put the Hulk against mostly street level foes. Forgive me for pointing out that this incarnation has a weakness. I guess I should have just posted "Hulk smash" and given no arguement. I didn't start this. As for Ock, really I've gone over the issues with it too many times on here...get over it. It's not like I'm making thread after thread of it on here like people do.


     

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    #18 - Posted: December 9, 2012 | 2:00 AM

    Dec 8, 2012 -- 11:59AM, TalonofMarvelmagic wrote:


    Dec 8, 2012 -- 3:36AM, Bonesbar wrote:


    Dec 7, 2012 -- 10:36PM, TalonofMarvelmagic wrote:


    One thing would be certain, joe fixit would kill Joker and Ras in one hit. He would tear joker's limbs off and use them to beat up killer croc, riddler, penguin, clayface, mr.freeze, scarecrow, mad hatter, bane, black mask, etc.


    The batman rogues would need a good plan against the weaker but nonetheless lethal Hulk.


     





    I have to disagree with the Joker and Ras comments. I'm sorry but they're smarter than that. Gotham is still part of the DC Universe...you talk like they've never faced a super being before. I see Ras finding the Hulk's Sunlight weakness and killing Banner long before he does jack to him.




    Hulk has no sunlight weakness. Ras and Joker are only so impressive because they are perfect villains for Batman, but you put these two masterminds with NO powers against an angry 60-70 ton monster who crushes steel like paper and they are about as useless as Justin Bieber, taylor swift and Maroon 5 as musicians (who are all frakking garbage)! Grey Hulk is Radiohead compared to these two gotham/global terrorists! FACT. They can't stop him. Ras needs elaborate planning to stop hulk. 


    Joker and Ras barely fight other super beings in DC. They are exclusively batman villains. Fixit would crush them in most encounters. Joker and Ras are only impressive in Batman comics.


    Is this your usual going against the grain, favoring batman rogues or spider-man rogues(which you always do) against a HUlk!? Yes, I think it is.


    Joe Fixit ftw


     





    You are correct Talon

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    #17 - Posted: December 9, 2012 | 2:00 AM

    Dec 8, 2012 -- 1:55PM, Bonesbar wrote:


    Dec 8, 2012 -- 1:46PM, GammaCosmic wrote:


    That was true at one point...but not any more.





    This is one thing I hate with the Hulk...at least in these debates. But really, when he was Mr Fixit it was the case. Wasn't it? That's who's in this fight. Well, if he has this issue I see him losing. If not, it's hard to tell. I'm not that big into Batman to know who beside Ivy could give him any real fight.





    You really like to downplay Hulk or look for a weakness by quoting comics from 20-60 years ago.  Yet, you cling to PIS displays of power from guys like Doc Ock.

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    #16 - Posted: December 8, 2012 | 9:55 PM

    Dec 8, 2012 -- 1:55PM, Bonesbar wrote:


    Dec 8, 2012 -- 1:46PM, GammaCosmic wrote:


    That was true at one point...but not any more.





    This is one thing I hate with the Hulk...at least in these debates. But really, when he was Mr Fixit it was the case. Wasn't it? That's who's in this fight. Well, if he has this issue I see him losing. If not, it's hard to tell. I'm not that big into Batman to know who beside Ivy could give him any real fight.




    Its called evolution of a character..who hasn't had a upgrade.

    "Him hit like mountain. If mountain had fist."-Incredible Hulk #3(Bor Brothers vs Hulk)
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    #15 - Posted: December 8, 2012 | 1:55 PM

    Dec 8, 2012 -- 1:46PM, GammaCosmic wrote:


    That was true at one point...but not any more.





    This is one thing I hate with the Hulk...at least in these debates. But really, when he was Mr Fixit it was the case. Wasn't it? That's who's in this fight. Well, if he has this issue I see him losing. If not, it's hard to tell. I'm not that big into Batman to know who beside Ivy could give him any real fight.

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    #14 - Posted: December 8, 2012 | 1:46 PM

    Dec 8, 2012 -- 12:51PM, Bonesbar wrote:


    Dec 8, 2012 -- 11:59AM, TalonofMarvelmagic wrote:

    Hulk has no sunlight weakness. Ras and Joker are only so impressive because they are perfect villains for Batman, but you put these two masterminds with NO powers against an angry 60-70 ton monster who crushes steel like paper and they are about as useless as Justin Bieber, taylor swift and Maroon 5 as musicians (who are all frakking garbage)! Grey Hulk is Radiohead compared to these two gotham/global terrorists! FACT. They can't stop him. Ras needs elaborate planning to stop hulk. 


    Joker and Ras barely fight other super beings in DC. They are exclusively batman villains. Fixit would crush them in most encounters. Joker and Ras are only impressive in Batman comics.


    Is this your usual going against the grain, favoring batman rogues or spider-man rogues(which you always do) against a HUlk!? Yes, I think it is.


    Joe Fixit ftw


     




    The Grey Hulk turns into Bruce Banner in the sunlight. 






    That was true at one point...but not any more.

    "Him hit like mountain. If mountain had fist."-Incredible Hulk #3(Bor Brothers vs Hulk)
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    #13 - Posted: December 8, 2012 | 12:51 PM

    Dec 8, 2012 -- 11:59AM, TalonofMarvelmagic wrote:

    Hulk has no sunlight weakness. Ras and Joker are only so impressive because they are perfect villains for Batman, but you put these two masterminds with NO powers against an angry 60-70 ton monster who crushes steel like paper and they are about as useless as Justin Bieber, taylor swift and Maroon 5 as musicians (who are all frakking garbage)! Grey Hulk is Radiohead compared to these two gotham/global terrorists! FACT. They can't stop him. Ras needs elaborate planning to stop hulk. 


    Joker and Ras barely fight other super beings in DC. They are exclusively batman villains. Fixit would crush them in most encounters. Joker and Ras are only impressive in Batman comics.


    Is this your usual going against the grain, favoring batman rogues or spider-man rogues(which you always do) against a HUlk!? Yes, I think it is.


    Joe Fixit ftw


     




    The Grey Hulk turns into Bruce Banner in the sunlight. 



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