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Mark Waid's Hulk weaker then Jason Aaron's Thor?

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    #30 - Posted: January 31, 2013 | 9:06 PM
    @king poetic btw awesome Pitt Avatar!  The only Hulk clone worthy to be his own character and flair.  Pitt was like what you get when you mix Hulk, Wolverine, and Lobo. 

    Next to Supreme (which is the best Superman archetype) Pitt was one of the better characters to come out of Image and that era of comics.
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    #29 - Posted: January 31, 2013 | 9:01 PM
    @ king poetic I think that's the plan for now. Just for now. Regarding the whole stand alone feel. It's just barely scratching the surface and giving new readers a taste of things to come.  I think Waid is smart. But if he knows what's good for him among Marvels bet writers he will give a small taste to The Halls of Hulk of Hulks intellect beyond baby talk savage Hulk at least within this Atlantis Attuma arc.

    Great analysis Jax!  I agree especially regarding the feats.  We've always known Hulk has Super Speed and now everyone else knows.
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    #28 - Posted: January 31, 2013 | 4:13 AM

    Wow I have been having real problems logging in for the forums it says I am logged in then I cant post ect then next day I can then a few days not able to again. Hope I can keep posting for a few days now.


    Ah well will post while can today.


    I like Jaxs assessment and am I am not sure if Waid is pushing this version of hulk or if marvel wants the film version in comics to get in new readers. It makes buisness sense while all these characters are hot property it allows for potential new readers which is good for the comics buisness as a whole for years to come. This allows for retaining good talent as if profits go up so can money available to get and keep top telent. If Hulk is the film hulk for a while to get better class of artist ect on the mag then I can handle that so long as we get a more articulate hulk back eventually.


    To me though the hulk they have in avengers cartoon would have been a great hulk for the films but it would have meant more hulk screen time which is more cost and cgi.

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    #27 - Posted: January 30, 2013 | 10:53 PM

    Jan 30, 2013 -- 8:04PM, jaxthejester wrote:


     


    Sorry I've been out for a while folks; work kicked up again.


    Yeh, this current Hulk is still pretty open for any direction. There is some contradiction in his showings, but they have been minor (such as having Hulk resist energy that can melt Adamantium in the fight with Thinker and having it once again stated on panel that Hulk's strength increases with rage and has no limit; and then turning around and having Iron Man hold his own and Hyperion do the same. The saving grace being that these were minor scuffles with no true motivation for Hulk to rage out).


    This current Hulk may not be Savage (which is what we are pretty much all hoping is the case; Savage has been used as a defaualt one too many times for my taste); but by the same note, he may be a new Hulk altogether.


    If Marvel is trying to meld the movie-verse with the 616 to bring in new readers, then this Hulk will likely be more akin to a "Gravage" type with few words and high showings of super-fast brute force. The healing factor and amping may take a back seat to higher base strength and super speed. We'll have to wait and see.


    Regardless; the writing is good and Banner is getting his due. This run will add two things to Hulk (not really add, but cement in the minds of doubters) - 1. Hulk can be fast. Very, very fast. His super speed on panel will soon have a flood of feats to post scans of.  2. Banner is indeed one of the smartest beings to ever walk the planet, and his tech has the potential to save or destroy the world.


    This is nothing new to many of us; but it will now have a ton of back up evidence when the misinformed start ranting on the v.s. boards.


    In time, we will see how intelligent this incarnation of Hulk is. And in time, Hulk will have a new writer that has the mythos of classic Hulk (stronger with rage, no upper limit, incredible healing), and a nice dose of superspeed and Bannertech cemented into this mythos.


    I suppose what I'm trying to say is that regardless of how this run turns out; Hulk will walk away faster, and Banner will walk away smarter (in application). Waid has given us speed and intellect with strong on panel feats to back it.


    So, IMO, the future looks good for big green. Be it now, or down the road when the next writer takes up the legacy.




    That is true..good way of looking at it. I guess some people are having Greg Pak and Peter David withdrawls. My only gripe so far is every issue doesn't add to the over all story of this series. Every issue feels like a stand alone. And Hulk only gets two pages. I wish he wrote Banner smart enough to make break throughs and make his own money without being funded by SHIELD. Banner Corp sounds real good.

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    #26 - Posted: January 30, 2013 | 8:04 PM

     


    Sorry I've been out for a while folks; work kicked up again.


    Yeh, this current Hulk is still pretty open for any direction. There is some contradiction in his showings, but they have been minor (such as having Hulk resist energy that can melt Adamantium in the fight with Thinker and having it once again stated on panel that Hulk's strength increases with rage and has no limit; and then turning around and having Iron Man hold his own and Hyperion do the same. The saving grace being that these were minor scuffles with no true motivation for Hulk to rage out).


    This current Hulk may not be Savage (which is what we are pretty much all hoping is the case; Savage has been used as a defaualt one too many times for my taste); but by the same note, he may be a new Hulk altogether.


    If Marvel is trying to meld the movie-verse with the 616 to bring in new readers, then this Hulk will likely be more akin to a "Gravage" type with few words and high showings of super-fast brute force. The healing factor and amping may take a back seat to higher base strength and super speed. We'll have to wait and see.


    Regardless; the writing is good and Banner is getting his due. This run will add two things to Hulk (not really add, but cement in the minds of doubters) - 1. Hulk can be fast. Very, very fast. His super speed on panel will soon have a flood of feats to post scans of.  2. Banner is indeed one of the smartest beings to ever walk the planet, and his tech has the potential to save or destroy the world.


    This is nothing new to many of us; but it will now have a ton of back up evidence when the misinformed start ranting on the v.s. boards.


    In time, we will see how intelligent this incarnation of Hulk is. And in time, Hulk will have a new writer that has the mythos of classic Hulk (stronger with rage, no upper limit, incredible healing), and a nice dose of superspeed and Bannertech cemented into this mythos.


    I suppose what I'm trying to say is that regardless of how this run turns out; Hulk will walk away faster, and Banner will walk away smarter (in application). Waid has given us speed and intellect with strong on panel feats to back it.


    So, IMO, the future looks good for big green. Be it now, or down the road when the next writer takes up the legacy.

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    #25 - Posted: January 30, 2013 | 2:11 PM

    testing...

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    #24 - Posted: January 28, 2013 | 2:19 PM

    Hulk fought Pitbull in Hulk #8.

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    #23 - Posted: January 27, 2013 | 12:27 PM

    I hope we have yet to see what the Hulk is capable of in IDH..


    I like Waid's style, I do think that we need more Hulk and a little bit more drawn out battles, and of course greater foes, worthy of Hulk going all out and pushing the limits of his Strength and Power!


    I believe Waid is character building as to start with, hopefully giving intelligence and great shows to come for the Hulk!


    peace..

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    #22 - Posted: January 26, 2013 | 11:07 PM

    Jan 26, 2013 -- 9:37AM, CapeBreakerHulk wrote:

    What's the way we can contact them again? We should do an artist vote. And submit it our top ten to Mark P.



    Here it is, my friend:

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    #21 - Posted: January 26, 2013 | 9:37 AM
    What's the way we can contact them again?  We should do an artist vote. And submit it our top ten to Mark P.
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