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Superior Spiderman no Pete
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#211
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Posted: March 8, 2013 | 10:45 PM
I have to admit, Otto is awesome as both Peter Parker and Spider-Man. I vote he stays as the Superior Spider-Man because he's done a far better job so far, because he's very tactical and a good planner, something Peter himself is lacking.
But if they are bringing back Pete then the Peter and Otto persona should merge together.
That might be what happens in issue 9? Here's what the preview says: • The hottest comic in comics comes to a turning point that will get you angrier than you were after Spidey #700!
• The time has come to see who will live, who will die, and who will emerge as the one, true Superior Spider-Man
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#210
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Posted: March 5, 2013 | 9:11 PM
im sick of peter parker i loving doc ock as spiderman 100% i hope he stays at least another 300 issues. I want to see him fight vemon or carnage. GO SUPERIOR DOC OCK !
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#209
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Posted: February 27, 2013 | 5:55 AM
I have to admit, Otto is awesome as both Peter Parker and Spider-Man. I vote he stays as the Superior Spider-Man because he's done a far better job so far, because he's very tactical and a good planner, something Peter himself is lacking. But if they are bringing back Pete then the Peter and Otto persona should merge together.
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#208
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Posted: February 23, 2013 | 5:30 PM
I'm committed to Dan Slott right now. His keeping Peter Parker in the new series is keeping me interested as to what is to become of Peter. Eventually, Slott may return Peter back to the control of his own body. If so, I'd also like to see what comes about Ock, if he lives or dies.
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#207
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Posted: February 15, 2013 | 10:46 AM
@Dragynwulf: And Avengers verses X-Men, Spider-Island, Armor Wars, Fall of Hulks Alpha/Gamma for that 'Rulk' thing,... just to name a few. :-P 
@CanadianYellowJacket: After the roller coaster of ups and downs about first the reality warp where Mephisto (Hey, what's he doing outside of GhostRider? Shouldn't he be screwing around with the Kale/Blaze clan? And if so I seriously doubt it but does that mean that Peter is a long lost relative and might come back as a spirit of vengeance?  :P) canceled out the marriage Peter and MJ had so that they were both still single, and after that the bit where they had Peter losing his Spider-sense, then getting it back... I'm a little too numb to be more upset than a tad irked or rankled about this latest throw up/throw down in the continuity stream. I mean there was even that thing where they retcon-cancelled Peter having a drunken one night stand with that one room mate he had the fiery tempered Michelle Gonzales so that it turned out he was merely psychosomatically convinced he was drunk off some apple cider... after putting up with that They could have said the new superior spider-man was the vulture or a cross dressing version of the Jackal and I'm not sure if it'd pass my so what test. Would I think it was dumb? Sure. And you can bet I'd want to tell the writers that I thought it was a stupid direction to go. I probably would too. I just... have a feeling that perhaps by the end of this arc maybe the Ock and Peter personalities will merge Ala DC's Firestorm (how the professor and the young guy and the second firestorm all share the same persona or w/e (which could still be altered later through a reset/revamp by some other writers, also keep in mind I'm a little rusty in my know-how about the opposite camp so I could be a bit off... I remember Firestorm being at least two different people who get merged))... or you could have the Peter trapped in Ock's old cancer-ridden body have just gone into a coma to be rescussitated later if things got too hairy and superior winds up writing itself too far into a corner-like. I mean Aunt May didn't stay dead/gone and over the years she's been shot, had cardiac arrest, blood poisoning from a radioactive spider-blood transfusion and beyond that... even been 'turned evil' by Mr. Negative and still recovered from all that. Speaking of is Mr. N still in a state where his powers are depleted? I'd be curious to see how Ock-Spidey/Spidey-Ock would deal matched up against a power nullifier like Martin Li. I think what's been bothering me in some ways for awhile now longer than this whole 'superior' schtick is the seemingly concerted effort going on to rewrite the character of MJ from a strong and independent woman who is an essential part of the Spidey cast of supporting characters into this superficial b*tch... I mean maybe I'm reading too much into it but there are times where it'll feel like the people working on Spider-Man just don't like Mary Jane much. lol. Oy, I had one last really weird thought just now. There's quite a bit of Fruedian hijinx to be had if they played up the whole Spider-man is Peter Is Ock relationship with Aunt May. Things could get quasi-oedipal because to Peter she is his dear old aunt who helped raise him but Otto at one point was all set to marry her when he thought she would inherit a nuclear reactor from that one dead guy.
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#206
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Posted: February 14, 2013 | 12:06 AM
See, this is just another example of what I mentioned in another thread about how things are taken the wrong way. Nowhere did he say any of that or Slott say any of that either. It could simply be something about Peter and Mary Jane's relationship that will never go back to the way they were or numerous other things because nothing specific was mentioned.
"He also stated in an interview that after this big event (ASM #700) things will never go back to the way they were!!!"
Got a link to the interview? That link only takes you to this same thread. Because googling it only leads to this thread as well. I seriously doubt the "big event" in ASM #700 was about Peter's (the REAL Peter) and MJ's relationship. It's pretty obvious he was talking about Otto replacing Peter, body and all. Big shock, I actually read the comment before posting. I'm not just some raged fanboy who doesn't listen and takes everything the wrong way, so stop treating me like one.
You assume he was talking about Otto replacing Peter. Slott has used interviews to his advantage to keep readers guessing by being vague just like many other writers are vague. He will be more indepth with what happens in the issue after its release. And lets not forget how he used Twitter to make readers think that Spider-Man 2099 was the new Spider-Man. It spread like wildfire all over the internet and suddenly was "fact" that is who the new SPider-Man was gonna be. "Things will never go back to the way they were" is always a vague statement used to hype stories. It is kind of like having someone tell you to look up in the sky and see the cloud that looks like a boat. If you look hard enough, it will start to look like a boat, but it is just really a cloud and nothing more. It was used after CIVIL WAR he Marvel Universe would never be the same... yet nothing really changed. HOUSE OF M was to change the mutant world forever and never be the same... yet the mutant population increased afterwards and they are popping up all over the place. www.newsarama.com/comics/dan-slott-amazi... www.newsarama.com/comics/dan-slott-super... www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article...
Have a Nice Day!  - DragynWulf"Hey there's a villain. And this is crazy. But this is comics, so death means maybe." 
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#205
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Posted: February 13, 2013 | 11:36 PM
See, this is just another example of what I mentioned in another thread about how things are taken the wrong way. Nowhere did he say any of that or Slott say any of that either. It could simply be something about Peter and Mary Jane's relationship that will never go back to the way they were or numerous other things because nothing specific was mentioned.
My opinion is Slott needs to go, sadly he has already done major damage. He also stated in an interview that after this big event (ASM #700) things will never go back to the way they were!!!
Yea, I seriously doubt that "big event" in ASM #700 was about Peter's and MJ's relationship. It's pretty obvious he was talking about Otto replacing Peter. Big shock, I actually read the comment before posting. I'm not just some raged fanboy who doesn't listen and takes every single thing the wrong way.
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#204
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Posted: February 13, 2013 | 11:32 PM
It's not just a title for me, it is a part of my youth and growth into the late 30's man that i am today. I still don't like it and Slott has been on thin ice with me for a while now and the ice now is cracked with holes in it! lol
I'm in my 40's and have read comics in general since I was old enough to read. I learned to read by reading comics in elementary school. I used my knowledge of THOR to pass Mythology class and never had to study because of the stories that involved actual mythology. I remember buying GIANT SIZED X-MEN #1 off the spinner rack at the local drug store. I kept it rolled up in my back pocket while playing tag out in the back yard with friends. It would be great, interesting and informative to interview a lot of these guys, sounds like you enjoy it. I am sure I would as well.
I think one of the ones I enjoyed the most was with Greg Pak where I asked him about PLANET HULK and what exactly makes it a different story than from when Hulk ventured into the microverse, battled a monterouos world, meet and fell in love with a green skinned queen, and became ruler. And that was essentially how I viewed it before I started reading it. But then after I read it, I seen that it was very much different. Sure, it had simular qualities, but it was a different story. Over the years, Marvel has been taking WHAT IF stories and older stories, revamping them and making them into new stories.
Have a Nice Day! - DragynWulf"Hey there's a villain. And this is crazy. But this is comics, so death means maybe."
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#203
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Posted: February 13, 2013 | 11:02 PM
It's not just a title for me, it is a part of my youth and growth into the late 30's man that i am today. I still don't like it and Slott has been on thin ice with me for a while now and the ice now is cracked with holes in it! lol It would be great, interesting and informative to interview a lot of these guys, sounds like you enjoy it. I am sure I would as well.
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#202
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Posted: February 13, 2013 | 10:54 PM
I would bail on other titles if this story line, because the character is a part of other books ie: Avengers. So if I decide down the road that it is not getting better for me and impacting my other titles then I will drop them. Now that is the risk they take when having some many titles and making this decision. Now my opinion on Slott is based on his writting and what few interviews I have seen with him. He can write, I can say I am not a huge fan of how he has taken the Spidey title but that is me.
Different writers would write the character differently. Some might throw the humor in there and play it off as Otto trying to act like Peter so that fans like yourself can't tell the difference.
And you can't take what you read in interviews too seriously. They are there to hype comics and it doesn't matter if they use misinformation to do it. For example, there have been numerous times that a writer will say something about a comic or a character in an interview, like where a character is from, a real name of a character, if a character is related to another, and so forth. Even in the letter pages. However, what matters is what happens in the comics themselves.
Slott is a huge Spider-Man fan. I mean big time fan (no pun intended) of Spider-Man. He wouldn't include various obscure characters in the title if he wasn't. He is enjoying writing Spider-Man just like any person that writes fan fiction would enjoy writing Spider-Man, except he gets paid to do it and works for Marvel while doing it. It is a dream job for him. When he does interviews, he enjoys talking about the character and is having fun with the interview. Like the one he gave to MTV where he was laughing (with an "evil" laugh and grin) about everyone assuming Peter would be back in a year or two because they pulled a fast one and brought him back in the next issue. He thinks like a fan and knows what a fan expects based on how the industry has done things and uses that to his advantage. But if you don't know this and look for it, the facial expressions he has can come across as making him look arrogant, but it is the opposite.
Marvel also has to accept the fact that some fans dislike this change or avenue they have taken and those fans have every right to feel that way and make comments about it, within reason and tact of course.
Marvel does and welcomes any all all comments about the thoughts of its fans and readers as long as they are within reason. This is why they have the forums, give e-mail address and snail mail address in the comics. They know that they can't please everyone all of the time, but they also know that with change comes chances to tell more interesting stories to try and please the fans/readers as much as possible. They also know that although some readers will leave, they will also get new readers at the sametime. That doesn't mean that they don't like the long time fans/readers because they hope that the long time readers/fans, who have been through tons of changes, will also be there for these changes.
I am giving it a chance mostly because SpiderMan is my all time favorite book, along with some good debate on forums and listening to other points of view. That doesn't mean that I am fan of Slott or that I will enjoy the story.
Hey, giving it a chance is all Marvel (or any company) asks. If you don't like it based on the stories and it isn't your cup of tea, then so be it. I don't like a lot of Bendis' titles myself. He is hit and miss with me and I don't see how he is so popular, but he is and his titles usually sell no matter what.
I still do not like the name change, there will be nothing that anyone says that will change my mind on that.
Eh... its only a title. Just like JUSTICE LEAGUE and JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA. It doesn't mean that JUSTICE LEAGUE has something against America because it isn't in the title. Lol!
I still believe that some of the reaction is still based on the timing, issue 700, how Peter was "killed" and some of the comments by Slott and his Editor. Right or wrong people are allowed to feel that way.
Odds are Slott, Wacker, and Alonso had nothing to do with the title change. Marketing has more control over things than the EIC does. Chances are they knew about the change happening in AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #700, wanted to wait until that issue (a big issue that is a good seller) and then reboot the title with a new #1 and used it to change the title.
I must say I am enjoying the discussion with you DragynWulf, glad to have some of your insight that you have gained by al the avenues in which you stated.
I'm lucky to have been given all those chances and I always enjoy discussion on comics.
Have a Nice Day! - DragynWulf"Hey there's a villain. And this is crazy. But this is comics, so death means maybe."
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