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    #50 - Posted: May 5, 2012 | 11:35 PM

    May 5, 2012 -- 6:09PM, monstarmaalik wrote:


    but uhh...  what do you think of him murdering kids? i'm kinda curious since i havent heard any Logan fans opinions on it. do you think he's outta line or you think she has it comin?




    Yeah, I've been wondering this myself. They've all been kinda quiet about it lol

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    #49 - Posted: May 5, 2012 | 10:07 PM

    I really don't think to Wolverine he sees any contradiction in his actions.


    He runs a school and an assassination squad. Yeah, but his reason for killing people is to ensure the kids don't have to. His thought is 'I'm already the killer, as are the guys with me, so we can protect the children and makes sure they don't have to become us'.


    On killing Hope, I think he sees the main difference as he doesn't believe children should be made into soldiers, but he's willing to kill her to save the world. He honestly believes it will consume her and destroy everything, so to him killing her is the only option and that he may even be saving her in a way by doing it. He may also be doing it because he realises the others may finally realise it come down to that and he will do it first to ensure nobody else has to even make the call, though this is conjecture on my part, since this isn't entirely confirmed in anything he says (however when Scott ran X-Force, Logan made a point of basically making the actual orders to kill so Scott didn't have to live with it).


    Certainly depending on how you look at it some of his ideas a contradictory, but that's part of being human. Every single human will have beliefs that are in direct contradiction to other beliefs, however we all develop reasoning for ourself as to why they aren't. It's just how we are, and Logan is guilty of this like anyone else.



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    #48 - Posted: May 5, 2012 | 9:29 PM

    In think that wolverine is gonna end up a real loner after this. He has pretty much burned his bridges with everyone now. I also think he is holding onto Kurt's death, and he's gotten to the point where he just doesn't care about anything but his own agenda.....although he's been running a school full of kids. He's also been contradicting himself for a while by running x force. On one side he's keeping kids away from fighting and teaching em to do right, and on the other hand he's a straight out killer. I thinks wolverines x force side is starting to come out more and more. And going after hope just proves it. But As someone said before he's just doing what needs to be done, he's just a little more extreme. And by the looks of it he is sick to death of morales and taking orders from guys like cap and cyclops.

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    #47 - Posted: May 5, 2012 | 6:25 PM

    May 5, 2012 -- 6:09PM, monstarmaalik wrote:


    depends on your perspective. you likely see it as one of your favorite characters got jumped by a small team of avengers and still held his own. but i saw it as an (attempted) child killer finally gettin put in his place. so i guess Brubaker did a good job of keeping all the fans happy.


    but uhh...  what do you think of him murdering kids? i'm kinda curious since i havent heard any Logan fans opinions on it. do you think he's outta line or you think she has it comin?




    QTF. :) But really I have not heard anything for Logan except "he's willing to do what's right to save the world". But nobody mentions the kid killing.

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    #46 - Posted: May 5, 2012 | 6:09 PM

    depends on your perspective. you likely see it as one of your favorite characters got jumped by a small team of avengers and still held his own. but i saw it as an (attempted) child killer finally gettin put in his place. so i guess Brubaker did a good job of keeping all the fans happy.


    but uhh...  what do you think of him murdering kids? i'm kinda curious since i havent heard any Logan fans opinions on it. do you think he's outta line or you think she has it comin?

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    #45 - Posted: May 5, 2012 | 5:30 PM

    May 2, 2012 -- 2:06PM, monstarmaalik wrote:


    i enjoyed this issue. i finally got to see Cap get put on blast for turnin into Norman Osborn. and i finally got to see Logan get that beating i've been askin for. and to make things better, my boy Pym was the one who gave it to him. so yeah, i cant ask for more than that. well, outside of some half decent art. 




    What beating? Pym got one cheap shot from behind in then kicked him out of an open bay door. Not exactly a beat down and not a win in any column.



     

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    #44 - Posted: May 5, 2012 | 5:26 PM

    Apr 26, 2012 -- 11:17PM, Winter_So1dier wrote:


    Apr 26, 2012 -- 8:19PM, cadence wrote:


    Oooo... Caps going to regret that I bet, he hasnt ever won a fight with the Wolves. Tsk, Tsk Captain.





    I remember he has a couple times. Once during Wolverine: Origins and once in Wolverine: Enemy of the State i think.




     


    IN Origins They had wolverine with a " man crush " on Cap so he held back. And in Enemy of the State Logan was on the run from The X-men. SHIELD and some Avengers was taking some punishment from multiple attackers Blasted by Cyclopses Optic blast and he teleported a short distance away and Cap hit a disoriented Wolverine from behind with his shield so you cant really say Cap beat him in a fair head to head battle when he really did a cheap shot from behind on an already weakened opponant.

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    #43 - Posted: May 4, 2012 | 11:02 PM


    So there are how many tie-ins and a companion series featuring "just battles," but no one thought "huh... maybe we should show this fight between Magik and Doctor Strange?" The one fight that so far has had some kind of implication in the story, and it is left out? Issue #3 was a nightmare.

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    #42 - Posted: May 4, 2012 | 3:56 PM

    May 4, 2012 -- 7:14AM, monstarmaalik wrote:


    but i do like the Ultimate Steve Rogers. he's actually my favorite ultimate character. kinda weird huh?





    You know it's funny, I actually completely understand lol. I like Ult Cap much better than 616 too. More personality i find, despite not being as complex imo.

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    #41 - Posted: May 4, 2012 | 12:20 PM

    May 3, 2012 -- 8:05PM, monstarmaalik wrote:


    aye, not to say i told ya'll so but i told ya'll so. lol, i've been preachin my Cap hate since forever, so its good to see the rest of the world is startin to see things the way they should be seen. but guess who else was right though? Norman Osborn.


    Norman was right about Asgard, as proven by Fear Itself, and now he's right about Cap and the Avengers.  He also said Cyclops is a dictator and Utopia should be overthrown.  so ya'll might wanna keep an eye for that one too.


    but yeah, one of these days, people are gonna realize that my boy Norm is the real hero and Earths only chance at survival. 




    BWAAAHHAAAAA!!  Norman Osborn is earths only chance at survival....  I needed that laugh today... 



     

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