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It will be sad if we don't hear about Rider. However it would be sick tho if Sam is the son of Garthan Saal.

Yeah, I don't get how they brought them back without explaining it, yet Rider is still nowhere to be found and it's as if he's dead. Can't wait to see what unfolds in Feb.

Nov 10, 2012 -- 12:32PM, BucketHead22 wrote:

Same here, man. 

I'm starting to seriously think this is how it's going down.. because lets review what HAS been revealed so far.

Exhibit A.) Dark Pheonix hinted that Sam isn't supposed to be in this universe.. And we also know from the Thanos Imperitive that not all the characters from the cancerverse are inherently evil (I.E. cancerverse Wanda/Vision).

Exhibit B.) They're doing a new Gaurdians of the Galaxy run. Pretty sure that's Peter Quill on the cover. And I read in an interview that Marvel has plans for Thanos (I would site the article but I can't remember where I saw it)..

If Star-Lord and Thanos can get out.. Yeah.. Would be pretty silly for Richard Rider not to be able to get out as well.. 

Exhibit C.) Richard had the last of the Nova Force in him when he went in. Soo even if Sam being from the Cancerverse theory isn't really whats going on, then that still wouldn't explain how Sam has the powers.. The only possible way that Sam has the powers and Rich is dead, is that Sam IS from the Cancerverse and has his own Cancerverse worldmind.

Either way.. I feel a little more optimisitc than I did a few days/weeks/months ago.

Our optimism is our only hope. I agree with all your possibilities. From all the evidence, anything is possible. However we can only hope until February.

In regards to Exhibit C, in the recent comics with Rich, whenever he would give some of the Nova Force to others, their helmet would be yellow just like his. Sam's helmet isn't yellow. It's the same color as Saal's. I think they are linked.

However we are talking about the Cancerverse. Maybe Sam comes from the Cancerverse's Nova Corps.

Nov 10, 2012 -- 10:31AM, Guardian_Outlaw wrote:

I truly hope we are right tho cuz my heart will be crushed if we don't find out about Richy.

Same here, man. 

I'm starting to seriously think this is how it's going down.. because lets review what HAS been revealed so far.

Exhibit A.) Dark Pheonix hinted that Sam isn't supposed to be in this universe.. And we also know from the Thanos Imperitive that not all the characters from the cancerverse are inherently evil (I.E. cancerverse Wanda/Vision).

Exhibit B.) They're doing a new Gaurdians of the Galaxy run. Pretty sure that's Peter Quill on the cover. And I read in an interview that Marvel has plans for Thanos (I would site the article but I can't remember where I saw it)..

If Star-Lord and Thanos can get out.. Yeah.. Would be pretty silly for Richard Rider not to be able to get out as well.. 

Exhibit C.) Richard had the last of the Nova Force in him when he went in. Soo even if Sam being from the Cancerverse theory isn't really whats going on, then that still wouldn't explain how Sam has the powers.. The only possible way that Sam has the powers and Rich is dead, is that Sam IS from the Cancerverse and has his own Cancerverse worldmind.

Either way.. I feel a little more optimisitc than I did a few days/weeks/months ago.

Nov 9, 2012 -- 10:43AM, Guardian_Outlaw wrote:

 I won't be surprised if he is from the Cancerverse. 

Funny you should mention that. I was JUST thinking about that today. Is it possible that Sam is the Cancerverse Nova? Remember in AvsX, Dark Pheonix says "I see your fear. I see your secrect. You don't belong here, do you?" to Sam Alexander.. Hmmm 

I wonder if that's what he meant?

Nov 6, 2012 -- 9:51PM, TalonofMarvelmagic wrote:

If the new nova is like Ultimate Spider-man, then why should I care? You see, I was never interested in Ult spidey, even if it is peter parker written by Bendis since, what year? 2000? I hear Ult spider-man was a solid series, better than the new one now, but I just never felt a DESIRE OR NEED to read Ult Spider-man. My spider-man is 616. I don't like Ultimate marvel, dude. Never have. Not even Millar's Ultimates are my thing. Good story and writing there, but Millar over does his stories and characters. To me the Ultimate avengers and spider-man, are the fake avengers and spider-man. Ultimate Xmen and FF are completely horrible. I can't stand those volumes. However, even if spidey is boring now in marvel U or just too exposed, he is still better than ultimate peter. You can't beat real peter parker, unless you prefer his clones like ben reilly or kaine- or prefer Venom/Flash. They are in the actual marvel U.

The new nova will not be as good or as exciting as richard rider. There is not one person who has read the late Nova series or at least read Nova tie ins from Conquest, Secret Invasion, War of Kings..and said that this guy was boring. He is a great character. He is very much like a spider-man in space, for the cosmic side. A relatable and incredibly powerful hero all at once, while bearing the burden of policing the galaxy with a super computer in his helmet. It was so well done. Good writing. Good artists. I miss that series more than most.

[Insert roaring applause] Couldn't have said it better myself. I also have zero interest in the ultimate universe.. But that's irrelevant. 

I feel like Marvel purposfully keep doing what their real fans DON'T want them to do. I'm a die hard Nova fan. Been following him since I was a kid and New Warriors first came out, and then I went back and read the first series when I was in High School. I can't even begin to explain how it feels like Marvel just ripped my heart out (I'm being a little over-dramatic, but I'm pretty upset over it! lol) by replacing Nova. If they wanted to have a new guy join the Corps and hang out with Rich.. Hey, that'd be cool! I think Rich would do well to have a side kick who is young and brash like He was. I think Rich would be a great mentor.. But even then, it'd be kinda lame to make someone so cool be a baby sitter. It just feels like they took him out while he was in his prime (pun sort of intended) and I just don't understand why you'd trade a well developed badass for someone nobody cares about, just so they can reach their new demographic. 

I'm not pleased, Marvel.. Not one bit.

They can salvage it though! all they have to do issss

Kick Loeb to the curb, Get Abnett and Lanning, and throw Sam in the cancerverse to rot.